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olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or could persuade him on this issue. don't under state the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change those attitudes is dialogue. and the way to change those attitudes is to talk to people about the fundamental right and the way to deal with republicans in my opinion is to say we are the party of abraham lincoln. let's not forget that. what are these -- we say that. let's live up to that. let's think about our principles here. what is decency and privacy and respect? can't talk about what happens in debate preparation but when those issues, if they're issues, they come up in the preparation because they might come up in the debate and you talk about those things and i can argue persuasively as i'm capable of arg
olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or could persuade him on this issue. don't under state the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change those...
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was capturing what mitt ryan -- mitt ryan? what mitt romney and paul ryan were saying. the point mitt romney interrupted paul ryan is when he was saying, he was just acting so -- romney jumped in, careful, careful. ixnay on the talking. vice president joe biden took the final topic of last night's debate, issue of abortion rights and hit paul ryan with it pretty forcefully. >> if anyone had a doubt about what's at state in this election, when it comes to women's rights, and the supreme court, i'm sure they were said last night. it was made clear last night that they don't believe in protecting a woman's access to health care. it was made very clear that they do not believe a woman has a right to control her own body. these guys have a social policy out of the '50s. >> that was joe biden's first major campaign appearance today after last night's big event with paul ryan. now, paul ryan's first public appearance after last night's debate was not that moment on the tarmac with mitt romney with the funny microphone, it was actuall
was capturing what mitt ryan -- mitt ryan? what mitt romney and paul ryan were saying. the point mitt romney interrupted paul ryan is when he was saying, he was just acting so -- romney jumped in, careful, careful. ixnay on the talking. vice president joe biden took the final topic of last night's debate, issue of abortion rights and hit paul ryan with it pretty forcefully. >> if anyone had a doubt about what's at state in this election, when it comes to women's rights, and the supreme...
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that's what happened the middle of our day with ryan, when a pew research poll showed the romney/ryan ticket in the lead. >> everybody says that the polls are skewed one way. >> reporter: a recent poll has come out that shows romney in front. how do you feel about that poll? >> he got a good bump out of the debate. >> reporter: you're saying you believe that poll? >> yeah. >> reporter: the people in this room, it is indeed tempting to now believe these latest numbers. not everyone is ready to believe. >> the pew research poll shows romney in front now. do you think that poll's accurate? >> probably as accurate as any of them out there. >> reporter: you don't think there's a difference? >> no. >> reporter: this woman had one thought she very much wanted to express. >> i think the only poll that's going to count is the one on november 6th. >> reporter: you can argue with what many people here are saying, but you can't argue with that. gary tuchman, cnn, rochester, michigan. >> she's right about that poll. michigan is tightening, you saw from the polling at the top. ohio is tightening to
that's what happened the middle of our day with ryan, when a pew research poll showed the romney/ryan ticket in the lead. >> everybody says that the polls are skewed one way. >> reporter: a recent poll has come out that shows romney in front. how do you feel about that poll? >> he got a good bump out of the debate. >> reporter: you're saying you believe that poll? >> yeah. >> reporter: the people in this room, it is indeed tempting to now believe these latest...
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ryan was understandable. maybe even predictable. but beyond the newsworthiness of paul ryan getting up and taking off his microphone and ending the interview and beyond the newsworthiness of the campaign going after this reporter, there was what that reporter was able to elicit from paul ryan. there's his prescription for what it takes to get out of poverty if you live in the inner city. >> the best thing to help prevent violent crime in the inner cities is to bring opportunity in the inner cities, help people get out of poverty, help teach people good discipline, good character. >> are all people who are poor only poor because they have not been taught good character? or only poor people in the inner cities who are poor because they don't have good character? they don't have good discipline, they need to be taught that. you watching at home, do you not make a lot of money? was there a time you didn't have a lot of money? is that because you have bad character? if i were the romney/ryan campaign i would probably try to trash that re
ryan was understandable. maybe even predictable. but beyond the newsworthiness of paul ryan getting up and taking off his microphone and ending the interview and beyond the newsworthiness of the campaign going after this reporter, there was what that reporter was able to elicit from paul ryan. there's his prescription for what it takes to get out of poverty if you live in the inner city. >> the best thing to help prevent violent crime in the inner cities is to bring opportunity in the...
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paul ryan's first debate? as abc news noted today, "paul ryan has actually participated in at least eight debates during his 14 years in congress. that's according to available articles and information provided by the ryan campaign." first debate? ninth debate? what's the difference, really? we know what the truth is here, but we put our presidential candidate out to talk to the press on camera and just make stuff up about it that's not true? big stuff, small stuff, nobody expects that what mitt romney says at any given moment is anything that you can take to the bank. we'll just revise it later. i do not get this strategy on their part. i do not get why that campaign does not take their candidate's perceived trustworthiness more seriously? they squander it on even small stuff like this. but, anyway, momentum wise right now, obviously, all of the momentum is on the republican side in this race. they can try to play that down as much as they want to, but it is very, very clear from the polls. substantively, for
paul ryan's first debate? as abc news noted today, "paul ryan has actually participated in at least eight debates during his 14 years in congress. that's according to available articles and information provided by the ryan campaign." first debate? ninth debate? what's the difference, really? we know what the truth is here, but we put our presidential candidate out to talk to the press on camera and just make stuff up about it that's not true? big stuff, small stuff, nobody expects...
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ryan? got a little cotton mouth? last night the romney/ryan effort was exposed as a shield for the extreme far right and vice president biden drove that point home again and again today, campaigning right in ryan's home state of wisconsin. >> it was made clear last night that they don't believe in protecting a woman's access to health care. it was made very clear that they do not believe a woman has a right to control her own body. these are are the folks who talk about 47% of the american people being unwilling to take responsibility. of it's time romney and ryan say we're going to level the playing field. we're going to give you a fair shot again. >> paul ryan has been saying he wanted a big debate. well, last night he got one and today their whole dishonest campaign is sorry he did. joining me now, dana milbank for "the washington post" and marge. >> nowhere more than when biden nailed him on the gop's attack on the stimulus. watch. >> i love my friend here. i'm not allowed to show letters but go to our website. h
ryan? got a little cotton mouth? last night the romney/ryan effort was exposed as a shield for the extreme far right and vice president biden drove that point home again and again today, campaigning right in ryan's home state of wisconsin. >> it was made clear last night that they don't believe in protecting a woman's access to health care. it was made very clear that they do not believe a woman has a right to control her own body. these are are the folks who talk about 47% of the...
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the answer was biden, 39%, ryan, 55%. in many ways this mirrors what happened to the presidential debate? everyone thought president obama would win, so there's great expectations here for ryan. how much of a microscope do you think there will be on him? >> i'm not so sure about that. i mean, i don't dispute your polling there, but i think most people understand that joe biden has been debating for a long time, since the early 1900s. >> he knows his stuff. >> right. i think what you see, though, in some of that polling is that some of the, you know, joe biden as of late put his foot in his mouth a few times in very public ways. he said that the middle class was crushed under, you know, the policies of obama and biden, and he said some things that were problematic. however, paul is a smart guy. he has committed his life to understanding the problems of our economy, presenting a plan for the american people, so i think that paul is going to do -- going to do a great job, but i also think it's very important for people to un
the answer was biden, 39%, ryan, 55%. in many ways this mirrors what happened to the presidential debate? everyone thought president obama would win, so there's great expectations here for ryan. how much of a microscope do you think there will be on him? >> i'm not so sure about that. i mean, i don't dispute your polling there, but i think most people understand that joe biden has been debating for a long time, since the early 1900s. >> he knows his stuff. >> right. i think...
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biden versus ryan who is going to win? i think biden wins. >> i think we will be talking about how did obama was. >> i have a feeling that romney could nick it again. good to see you. is the new president obama leaner and meaner? we'll debate tonight's battleground america next. >>> president obama is accusing mitt romney of flip-flopping on the issues. before we go anywhere i want to play this attack on his comment on abortion. >> this is another example of governor romney hiding issues he has been campaigning on for year. >> he has made very clear if the bill come to his desk that overturn s roe versus wade that he will overturn that. >> now four weeks before an election he is trying to cloud the question. >> let me start with you. mitt romney has performed more flip-flops on abortion and i don't think this is a flip-flop. >> you can be pro life but also say we have to turn the economy around first. it has thengs like we are going to fix trade and education. but abortion is not on that list. >> yes, but the reason that h
biden versus ryan who is going to win? i think biden wins. >> i think we will be talking about how did obama was. >> i have a feeling that romney could nick it again. good to see you. is the new president obama leaner and meaner? we'll debate tonight's battleground america next. >>> president obama is accusing mitt romney of flip-flopping on the issues. before we go anywhere i want to play this attack on his comment on abortion. >> this is another example of governor...
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ticket but for ryan himself. >> ezra, you know paul ryan and you know that paul ryan's experience in the house does not include free form debating. unlike, in the united states senate, they actually have real debates on the floor, and things go back and forth without moderators, but in the house it's this soviet institution where one side never really has to talk to the other side or or take any real challenges. >> also, i think ryan did for ryan a fairly good job. i thought he got his points in. i thought he stood up and if you agreed with him you probably thought he won the debate. the problem was joe biden is a really good debatetor. he's been a six-term senator. he was named vice president in twoit largely on the strength of his debating performances. it isn't like he had won a bunch of primaries. yet there's a funny thing that happens with joe biden in between as people got an impression of him and he comes out and what biden is particularly good at and what ryan is unable to counter is biden wields authority well. i've known bb for 35 years. >> i was there. >> i was in the room
ticket but for ryan himself. >> ezra, you know paul ryan and you know that paul ryan's experience in the house does not include free form debating. unlike, in the united states senate, they actually have real debates on the floor, and things go back and forth without moderators, but in the house it's this soviet institution where one side never really has to talk to the other side or or take any real challenges. >> also, i think ryan did for ryan a fairly good job. i thought he got...
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asked yesterday if sanchez will remain the starter, ryan said, yeah, no question. when you look at it, he played pretty good. i thought he was accurate with the football. stats don't necessarily agree with you, coach. mark sanchez last in the league in completion percentage. second to last in quarterback rating. 26th in passing yards. he's also the first quarterback since stone astoney case to hav straight games with a completion percentage under 50%. the jets host the colts this sunday. >>> coming up at the top of the hour on "morning joe," less than four weeks until election day. we have more post debate swing state polling to show you. plus a new version of events in benghazi. and when we come back here, we'll huddle around the water cooler to watch jimmy fallon as mitt romney as mr. rogers. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- wel
asked yesterday if sanchez will remain the starter, ryan said, yeah, no question. when you look at it, he played pretty good. i thought he was accurate with the football. stats don't necessarily agree with you, coach. mark sanchez last in the league in completion percentage. second to last in quarterback rating. 26th in passing yards. he's also the first quarterback since stone astoney case to hav straight games with a completion percentage under 50%. the jets host the colts this sunday....
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paul ryan has basically grown up inside the capitol. >> well, i think there are real advantages for ryan, too. he comes across as sincere and likable like the guy who lives next door to you and i think that's a huge advantage to do that. second of all, the vice president is going to have defend everything about their administration -- the mediocrity of the economy, the failure in foreign policy and so forth. and let's face it, joe biden has had his share of being the punch line on the talk shows and the comedy shows quite a bit, and there's always that opportunity with joe biden we're going to see some major gaffe again. >> all right, so, let's see if the kids in college for thursday night start a drinking game for how many times they hear big bird mentioned between the vice president ticket-holders. jonathan capehart, karen finney and john brebender, thank you for joining me. >>> joining me in studio, ohio state senator nina turner. great to have you here. i know you've been listening to the conversation about ohio, so let's dig in. their voter registration deadline is today. both candi
paul ryan has basically grown up inside the capitol. >> well, i think there are real advantages for ryan, too. he comes across as sincere and likable like the guy who lives next door to you and i think that's a huge advantage to do that. second of all, the vice president is going to have defend everything about their administration -- the mediocrity of the economy, the failure in foreign policy and so forth. and let's face it, joe biden has had his share of being the punch line on the...
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that's what paul ryan believes. >> i know. it's pretty shocking because he clearly has not been where i've been. every day in washington, d.c., i see the folks, the working poor, out early on the bus to get to their jobs, the folks that work late cleaning and janitors and the various office buildings. i see tremendous discipline. and i see an incredible desire to really make a go for their families. he just is out of touch. that's why we invited him to come to cincinnati and meet some of our people, but apparently they are not coming. >> speaking of out of touch, you told e.j. dionne that the president has gotten disconnected from the people he cares about. explain what you're talking about. you think the president is disconnected? does he need to reconnect? >> that's why we invited him to cincinnati tomorrow, but i think the debate last week evidence that he got really into his policy side when really the conversation needs to be about the people that are struggling in our society. tomorrow we're hosting one man from clevelan
that's what paul ryan believes. >> i know. it's pretty shocking because he clearly has not been where i've been. every day in washington, d.c., i see the folks, the working poor, out early on the bus to get to their jobs, the folks that work late cleaning and janitors and the various office buildings. i see tremendous discipline. and i see an incredible desire to really make a go for their families. he just is out of touch. that's why we invited him to come to cincinnati and meet some of...
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what does that mean for paul ryan in his debate? just how bi can paul ryan go? >>> and big bird's most passionate defender will join us later which will give me a chance to have a mini "west wing" reunion. and a member of the science commit me who thinks science is alive from the pit of hell. and he thinks he's a scientist. also tonight steve mor continue -- martin decided to do his political commercial, one of those guys, steve martin or bob kerrey will join me to explain why steve did that. everyone in the nicu, all the nurses wanted to watch him when he was there 118 days. everything that you thought was important to you changes in light of having a child that needs you every moment. i wouldn't trade him for the world. who matters most to you says the most about you. massmutual is owned by our policyholders so they matter most to us. if you're caring for a child with special needs, our innovative special care program offers strategies that can help. >>> coming up, mitt romney tried to play a moderate at the debate last week. this week, paul ryan's going to gi
what does that mean for paul ryan in his debate? just how bi can paul ryan go? >>> and big bird's most passionate defender will join us later which will give me a chance to have a mini "west wing" reunion. and a member of the science commit me who thinks science is alive from the pit of hell. and he thinks he's a scientist. also tonight steve mor continue -- martin decided to do his political commercial, one of those guys, steve martin or bob kerrey will join me to explain...
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we want the paul ryan budget which cuts spending $6 trillion. the republicans in the house have passed 24-plus bills that create jobs and opportunity and strip out regulations. we just need a president to sign this stuff. and pick a republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become president of the united states. >> you know, that's not an unfair shot. he basically believes he has those pledges in his pocket. he knows he can control fiscal policy in the congress with or without the new president. if there's a new president. he's got romney's arms tied in the same way that the religious right has his arms tied on abortion rights, same-sex, the the way the neo cons have his arms tied in terms of foreign policy. >> one question either the moderate or obama should ask, name one issue in which you plan to buck your party, one issue in which you plan to stand up to house republicans, one issue in which you don't plan to govern as a severe conservative as you described your record in massachusetts before you were describing your efforts i
we want the paul ryan budget which cuts spending $6 trillion. the republicans in the house have passed 24-plus bills that create jobs and opportunity and strip out regulations. we just need a president to sign this stuff. and pick a republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become president of the united states. >> you know, that's not an unfair shot. he basically believes he has those pledges in his pocket. he knows he can control fiscal policy in the congress with or...
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. >> i thought that ryan did for ryan a fairly good job. he stood up and if you agreed with him you probably thought he won the debate. the problem is joe biden is a good debater. a six-term u.s. senator, the sixth youngestist senator ever elected to the body. vice president in 2008 largely on the strength of his debating performances. not like he won a bunch of primary and a funny thing happens with joe biden in between where people got this onion inflected impression of him as a guy washing his transam in the white house parking lot and what biden is about at and what he is unable to counter is he wields authority well. i have known bb for 35 years. i was best friends and in the room and that for a guy that looks even younger than he is like ryan was devastating. >> let's listen to joe biden talking about romney's 47%. >> these are the folks who talk about 47% of the american people being unwilling to take responsibility. 82% of them pay their payroll taxes and other taxes and at an effective rate higher than romney pays his taxes. over 1
. >> i thought that ryan did for ryan a fairly good job. he stood up and if you agreed with him you probably thought he won the debate. the problem is joe biden is a good debater. a six-term u.s. senator, the sixth youngestist senator ever elected to the body. vice president in 2008 largely on the strength of his debating performances. not like he won a bunch of primary and a funny thing happens with joe biden in between where people got this onion inflected impression of him as a guy...
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>> you could say paul ryan is younger, has more passion, has more energy. you could say joe biden is more experienced, 36 years in the senate, the sitting vice president, he's been on this stage before. biden on paper has more experience at this. ryan says he's outgunned. we will see how it goes. americans pick presidents, not vice presidents. where can you go back in history and find a game-changing vice presidential debate. you mentioned governor romney does have some debate right now. the republican base is energized right now, so this is how his campaign views this. paul ryan can continue that momentum or he can do something that chokes off that momentum. >> there was a lot of pressure in 2008 when biden was going against palin and he had to come off as not being condescending, not seeming sort of dismissive of her. it's a very different dynamic. >> yeah. he didn't want to appear patronizing at all during that debate. he had to really watch himself, and he's told me since then that that was sort of the hardest thing for him to do. he doesn't have any of
>> you could say paul ryan is younger, has more passion, has more energy. you could say joe biden is more experienced, 36 years in the senate, the sitting vice president, he's been on this stage before. biden on paper has more experience at this. ryan says he's outgunned. we will see how it goes. americans pick presidents, not vice presidents. where can you go back in history and find a game-changing vice presidential debate. you mentioned governor romney does have some debate right now....
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and paul ryan, some could say he held his own. the fireworks flew from the start. >> vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan. >> one month ago tonight on the anniversary of 9/11, ambassador chris stevens and three other brave americans were killed in a terrorist attack in benghazi. wasn't this a massive intelligence failure, vice president biden? >> wherever the facts lead us, wherever they lead us, we will make clear to the american public because whatever mistakes were made will not be made again. >> this is becoming more troubling by the day. they first blame the youtube video, now they're trying to blame the romney/ryan ticket for making this an issue. >> with all due respect that's a bunch of malarkey. when there's a crisis we pull together as a nation. even before we knew what happened to the ambassador the governor was holding a press conference, holding a press conference. that's not presidential leadership. >> the debate moved from foreign policy to the 47%. >> it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47%
and paul ryan, some could say he held his own. the fireworks flew from the start. >> vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan. >> one month ago tonight on the anniversary of 9/11, ambassador chris stevens and three other brave americans were killed in a terrorist attack in benghazi. wasn't this a massive intelligence failure, vice president biden? >> wherever the facts lead us, wherever they lead us, we will make clear to the american public because whatever mistakes...
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ryan's talking, laughing, smiling. these are different instances of him laughing, smiling, shaking his head. what is this telling you that joe biden was doing? >> okay. different people are going to interpret this differently. certainly, it comes across as dismissive. joe biden has some of the most authentic nonverbals. he comes across as very real, almost too -- i mean, it's both a blessing and a curse. >> what are the nonverbals you're talking about that's significant, what he's doing with his hands. what is this all about? >> this is interesting because he's smiling but what he's doing with his hands where he's pulling them up close to his face and actually touching his face, it's something that you do when you're feeling a little threatened and are sort of protecting yourself. >> you're telling me that paul ryan raises his eyebrows a lot. what is the significance of that? show me what you mean, where -- right there, right? >> his eyebrows are raised and his brow is furrowed. his eyes are wide. all of that indicates
ryan's talking, laughing, smiling. these are different instances of him laughing, smiling, shaking his head. what is this telling you that joe biden was doing? >> okay. different people are going to interpret this differently. certainly, it comes across as dismissive. joe biden has some of the most authentic nonverbals. he comes across as very real, almost too -- i mean, it's both a blessing and a curse. >> what are the nonverbals you're talking about that's significant, what he's...
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ryan. let's hear next from betty from houston. turn down your tv volume, please. >> yes, thank you. i thought the debate is very good. yes or a democrat, and i found buys president biden was very clear. he was concise. he was a very factual. i did not feel that credibility with paul ryan. he seemed like he piggybacked on everything vice president biden said it. my mother is older, and i am older. i am very concerned about social security and things of that nature. i do not think there are looking out for the middle class. if they call the middle class $250,000, they are very out of touch. >> back to facebook asking the question about who won the debate. you can post your comments on c- span's face of a page, and we will continue looking at them as we continue our reaction to the debate. next up is john from utah. as a republican, you are on. >> thank you. i think it was nauseating the way mr. joe biden and the last of the way through. does he not take anything serious? he is and that and in
ryan. let's hear next from betty from houston. turn down your tv volume, please. >> yes, thank you. i thought the debate is very good. yes or a democrat, and i found buys president biden was very clear. he was concise. he was a very factual. i did not feel that credibility with paul ryan. he seemed like he piggybacked on everything vice president biden said it. my mother is older, and i am older. i am very concerned about social security and things of that nature. i do not think there are...